Premium Isn't About Price — It's About Positioning
Guest: Ross Mackay — Founder & CEO of CadenceApple Podcasts Spotify
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In this episode of Open Residency, we sit down with Ross Mackay, the founder and CEO of Cadence — the brand redefining what "premium" means in a $200B beverage category.
Ross breaks down how you turn a $2 drink into luxury through positioning, packaging, retail strategy, and relentless attention to detail — and why building "premium at scale" is the ultimate unlock.
From obsessing over shelf velocity to rebranding three times in under a year, this is a masterclass in how modern CPG brands actually win.
We go deep on:
- Retail economics (margins, trade spend, distribution vs. DSD), how to pitch Walmart and Target, and what most founders get wrong
- Why most founders misunderstand influencers, and the discipline required to scale without losing brand equity
- Lessons from raising capital from top-tier investors, why speed is the only real advantage early on, and how Cadence plans to go head-to-head with Gatorade — not in theory, but on shelf
- The hiring philosophy at Cadence and the one question Ross always asks before hiring
- Why working with world class athletes might actually damage your brand
Enjoy the conversation!
Chapters:
00:00:00 Trailer00:00:51 How Do You Make a $2 Product Luxury?
00:04:01 Why Did You Rebrand 3 Times in 1 Year?
00:12:48 How Do You Actually Approach to Retailers?
00:18:36 How and Why Were You Comfortable Going Into Retail?
00:23:41 The Mafia That Controls Distribution
00:27:32 What's Your Biggest Learning From Scaling Retail?
00:34:05 Let's Talk About Product, How Many SKUs Have You Launched?
00:39:54 The One Rule To Approaching Manufacturers
00:42:32 You've Been Sold Out For 200+ Days. Good or Bad Problem?
00:45:30 The Biggest Mistake A Brand Can Make
00:49:38 How Should Someone Actually Make Their Own Custom Product?
00:51:31 You Are A Serious Runner, How Do You Test What Ratios Are The Most Optimal?
00:55:22 How Do You Look At Content In Your Positioning Strategy?
01:01:21 How Do You Look At Collabs? With Bandit and RAW
01:05:24 Why Working With Word Class Athletes Might Actually Damage Your Brand
01:08:21 What's Your Ad Strategy For Cadence Right Now? What is Working in This Space?
01:11:18 The Hiring Philosophy At Cadence And The One Question Ross Always Asks Before Hiring.
01:22:32 QuickFile Questions (Raising Capital, Peter Thiel, George Heaton)
🎙 Guest: Ross Mackay, Founder & CEO of Cadence
Website: https://us.usecadence.com/
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